David Tacey Interview on Carl Jung, Mysticism, Comparative Religion and the Politics of Mythology

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Exploring the Depths of Jungian Psychology: An Interview with David Tacey

Introduction

In a fascinating interview with Joel Blackstock from the Tap Root Therapy Collective podcast, David Tacey, a renowned Australian public intellectual, writer, and professor, delves into the world of Jungian psychology. Tacey, a student of anthropology, religion, sociology, and the history of psychoanalytic therapy, offers unique insights into the life and work of Carl Jung, comparative religion, politics, and the challenges faced by Jungian psychology in the modern world.

Understanding Carl Jung

Tacey emphasizes the complexity and depth of Jung’s work, noting that Jung is a “universe of thought within himself.” He suggests that diving into Jung’s work unprepared can be challenging due to the dense nature of his writings and his frequent use of various languages, such as Latin, ancient Greek, Arabic, French, and Italian. Tacey recommends starting with Jung’s more accessible works, such as “Memories, Dreams, Reflections” and “Essays on Contemporary Events,” before delving into the Collected Works.

Tacey also discusses Jung’s influences, including his relationships with Sigmund Freud and Wolfgang Pauli, and the impact of these connections on the development of Jungian psychology. He highlights Jung’s role as a philosopher working in the field of psychology, drawing from various disciplines, including biology, anthropology, archeology, and physics.

Jung and Religion

The interview explores Jung’s complex relationship with religion, particularly his views on Christianity and the concept of God. Tacey notes that Jung believed in the importance of a symbolic and metaphorical understanding of religious texts, rather than a literal interpretation. He also discusses Jung’s idea that God needs to be reborn in the human soul, drawing parallels to the Indian concept of the Atman and its relationship to Brahma.

Tacey delves into the challenges Jung faced from religious authorities, particularly the Catholic Church, due to his unconventional views on religion and spirituality. He also examines the role of mysticism in various religious traditions and how it relates to Jung’s ideas about the direct experience of the divine.

The Red Book and Direct Experience

Tacey and Blackstock discuss Jung’s “Red Book,” a personal journal documenting Jung’s descent into his own unconscious. While Blackstock views the “Red Book” as a profound and valuable work, Tacey expresses reservations about its psychotic and prophetic tone. They explore the concept of direct experience in Jungian psychology and the risks associated with unmediated encounters with the unconscious.

The conversation also touches on Jung’s conservative views on certain topics, such as gender roles and the anima/animus concepts. Tacey acknowledges that while Jung’s work laid the foundation for a more expansive understanding of sexuality and gender, he remained a product of his time in some respects.

James Hillman and Post-Jungian Psychology

A significant portion of the interview focuses on James Hillman, a prominent post-Jungian psychologist who worked closely with Tacey for three years. Tacey shares his experiences as Hillman’s analysand and discusses Hillman’s attempts to move beyond Jung’s ideas, particularly through his development of archetypal psychology.

However, Tacey also expresses criticism of Hillman’s work, noting the discrepancy between his theories and his clinical practice. He suggests that Hillman struggled to fully articulate and implement his post-Jungian ideas, and discusses Hillman’s controversial views on war and gender politics.

The Future of Jungian Psychology

Tacey and Blackstock discuss the challenges facing Jungian psychology in the modern world, including the fragmentation of Jungian institutes and the difficulty of translating Jung’s complex ideas into accessible forms. They also explore the potential for Jungian psychology to address contemporary issues, such as mental health, trauma, and addiction.

Tacey suggests that while the heyday of Jungian psychology may have passed, there is still significant interest in Jung’s ideas, particularly among younger generations. He notes the importance of adapting Jungian concepts to meet the needs of a changing world while maintaining the depth and richness of Jung’s original insights.

Conclusion

The interview with David Tacey offers a thought-provoking exploration of the complexities and challenges of Jungian psychology. By delving into Jung’s life and work, his relationship with religion, the concept of direct experience, and the contributions of post-Jungian thinkers like James Hillman, Tacey and Blackstock provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the relevance and potential of Jungian ideas in the modern world.

As Jungian psychology continues to evolve and adapt to the needs of contemporary society, interviews like this one serve as valuable resources for those seeking to deepen their understanding of the human psyche and the role of the unconscious in shaping our lives.

Key Takeaways

  • Jung’s work is complex and multifaceted, drawing from various disciplines and requiring careful study and preparation to fully understand.
  • Jung’s relationship with religion was complex, and he faced challenges from religious authorities due to his unconventional views on spirituality and the direct experience of the divine.
  • The “Red Book” documents Jung’s personal descent into his unconscious and raises questions about the risks and benefits of direct experience in Jungian psychology.
  • James Hillman, a prominent post-Jungian psychologist, attempted to move beyond Jung’s ideas but struggled to fully articulate and implement his theories in clinical practice.
  • Jungian psychology faces challenges in the modern world, including fragmentation and the need to adapt to contemporary issues while maintaining the depth and richness of Jung’s original insights.

To learn more about David Tacey and his work, visit his Wikipedia page.

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